Racial stereotyping

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If racist language isn't hate speech then what is it and what makes it intolerable?
Speech you don't like can be deemed abhorrent; but that should never justify making speech you don't like a crime. It's better to have a "war of words" than an actual war.

There is a vast chasm between governments who:
  • only provide protections against injustices
  • ...versus a government focused on dispensing "justice"
...because "justice" is whatever those in power define it to be.

“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”
Noam Chomsky
 

Dave

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Racial stereotyping :rolleyes: ...or do you pass your culture by insemination?
Hitler similarly stereotyped Jews to justify the socialist "justifiable" genocide (as described by Engels); same happened for example with the Rwandan genocide, China's attacks on Tibetans, Yughurs, ...

The fact that Hitler made some generalizations that could be reasoned to be appropriate does not make the act of stereotyping any race justifiable. If your measure of what stereotyping is acceptable is tied at all to race or skin colour then you're condoning racism; I.e. a tacit admonishment of a race.

There are many on the left who selectively pick through history to drive the narrative that white is somehow evil, and hence deserves to be singled out...

...but that's a completely ill informed view of history and isn't unsupported by fact. For example: Africans were and still are the world's largest market of slave trafficking; history reveals that whites were also victims of the African slave trade -- Africa's Barbary Coast pirates enslaved over 1.3m white Europeans over 3 centuries as far north as Iceland. The slave trade didn't only become wrong when whites became the perpetrators. It's wrong on point.

There is hardly any nation that can attest to being innocent re historic atrocities; yet today the Marxists and Democrats have somehow concluded that skin colour is now a paramount determinant of "evilness" and "privilege" :rolleyes:

I think the polite term for this outlook is crazy nutter...
 
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Of course, intolerable means that society should take action to prevent it from happening.
...and here we go again.
So you're ok if I'm in power and I make everything you believe a crime i.e. "hate speech" -- Isn't that what Hitler did?
“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”
Noam Chomsky
 
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I'm just using your own choice of vocabulary, perhaps it was poorly chosen?
Answer the question.

Are you ok; that when I'm in power... I get to define everything you say as "hate speech" -- because..
  • I don't like it
  • It offends me
  • I find it abhorrent
  • It's intolerable
  • etc...
“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”
Noam Chomsky
 

jasong

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Answer the question.

Are you ok; when that when I'm in power... I get to define everything you say as "hate speech" -- because..
  • I don't like it
  • It offends me
  • I'd find abhorrent
  • It's intolerable
  • etc...

I didn't say I was ok with it did I? I'm just trying to understand why your standards are so inconsistent. It's almost like you primarily define racism as intolerable criticism of white people, and you primarily define hate speech as anything you want to say about another race that should be tolerated. But that would be a gaping double standard and heaven forbid anyone accuse you of that.
 
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I didn't say I was ok with it did I? I'm just trying to understand why your standards are so inconsistent. It's almost like you primarily define racism as intolerable criticism of white people, and you primarily define hate speech as anything you want to say about another race that should be tolerated. But that would be a gaping double standard and heaven forbid anyone accuse you of that.
Inconsistent?

How so... the fact that I believe that nobody should ever have the right to define some speech as "hate speech".
No I am very consistent; I make it a point to be consistent about this. It would be inconsistent to think that those in power will always be saints... Hitler after-all was voted into power; as has so many other despots.

As for racism; that's your supposition, not mine. I challenge you to find any of my words that imply anything like that.

Nope racism is simple; those who believe that our skin colour or more specifically that which is genetically passed to us by our parents defines us in some way. To generalise or stereotype ANYONE based on these inherent and unchangeable attributes is racism.
 
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I don't feel like a game of pigeon chess today, so you carry on with your ranting.
...and yet you felt the need to reply. :rolleyes:
Shame did I inconveniently shine sunlight on your closet racism?
 
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Nope, but my tolerance of crazy shit is low at the moment.
So much for your proclamation of disinterest.
Next you'll be telling me you have some <insert race> friends -- so you can't be racist.
 
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rambo919

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So much for your proclamation of disinterest.
Next you'll be telling me you have some <insert race> friends -- so you can't be racist.
So basically you have decided he's racist and nothing he says can dissuade you.....
 

TabacNW

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"The Kings English" ... :LOL:

I'm Afrikaans, so need a seperate list.
 
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rambo919

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In his weird world everyone is racist, other than him...

He'd be a very good subject for psychological testing.
It does irritate me how some people redefine racism into this moral subjective thing to suit whatever agenda matters to them.

Either it's all BS or it's real and objective. Facts don't change to suit feelings.
 
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