Racial stereotyping

[[)roi(]]

This was published by the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture... it's supposedly a definition of "whiteness" and by implication is what's supposedly "wrong" with "whiteness"?

It was bad when Hitler generalised about Jews; yet by today's progressive democrat standards; its now perfectly "acceptable" to generalise about "whiteness"; because like Hitler some racism is "justified".

As much as the left tries to deny any ideological commonality between Nazis, Socialism, Fascism and Marxism; ideological similarities won't be denied a forum -- as Marx, Engels and Hitler reasoned; socialism is by design inherently racist.

 

[Dave]

This was published by the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture... it's supposedly a definition of "whiteness" and by implication is what's supposedly "wrong" with "whiteness"?

It was bad when Hitler generalised about Jews; yet by today's progressive democrat standards; its now perfectly "acceptable" to generalise about "whiteness"; because like Hitler some racism is "justified".

As much as the left tries to deny any ideological commonality between Nazis, Socialism, Fascism and Marxism; ideological similarities won't be denied a forum -- as Marx, Engels and Hitler reasoned; socialism is by design inherently racist.

I don't see anything wrong with that, it describes western civilisation quite well.

 

[[)roi(]]

I don't see anything wrong with that, it describes western civilisation quite well.

Now do "Blackness", and then "Hispanicness" and then ...

 

[biometrics]

Now do "Blackness", and then "Hispanicness" and then ...

Not sure what their point is. It describes white nuclear families quite well. Very generalised though, doesn't work for me being atheist, unmarried, childless etc.

 

[[)roi(]]

Not sure what their point is. It describes white nuclear families quite well. Very generalised though, doesn't work for me being atheist, unmarried, childless etc.

If the determinant of what's acceptable or not is at all tied to race; then it's racism. It's not as iff Hitler's atrocities in WW2 would have been acceptable if only he was black i.e. "those pesky white jews would then by today's standards have deserved it"

Plus I don't remember from biology any chapters covering the insemination of a race's culture.

Now imagine the same chart where white is exchanged for black with generalisations, ....or jewish (oh wait, my bad.... Hitler already did that one ).

 

[Dave]

Now do "Blackness", and then "Hispanicness" and then ...

You really have a problem with race, don't you?

 

[[)roi(]]

You really have a problem with race, don't you?

Nope.
Generalisation was never acceptable when Hitler did it; neither was it acceptable when Apartheid did it, or during the Jim Crow era, etc.

The fact that you ignore this now; means that you do.

 

[Dave]

Nope.
Generalisation was never acceptable when Hitler did it; neither was it acceptable when Apartheid did it, or during the Jim Crow era, etc.

The fact that you ignore this now; means that you do.

So what western attributes listed in that document do you disagree with?

 

[[)roi(]]

So what western attributes listed in that document do you disagree with?

Racial stereotyping ...or do you pass your culture by insemination?
Hitler similarly stereotyped Jews to justify the socialist "justifiable" genocide (as described by Engels); same happened for example with the Rwandan genocide, China's attacks on Tibetans, Yughurs, ...

The fact that Hitler made some generalizations that could be reasoned to be appropriate does not make the act of stereotyping any race justifiable. If your measure of what stereotyping is acceptable is tied at all to race or skin colour then you're condoning racism; I.e. a tacit admonishment of a race.

There are many on the left who selectively pick through history to drive the narrative that white is somehow evil, and hence deserves to be singled out...

...but that's a completely ill informed view of history and isn't unsupported by fact. For example: Africans were and still are the world's largest market of slave trafficking; history reveals that whites were also victims of the African slave trade -- Africa's Barbary Coast pirates enslaved over 1.3m white Europeans over 3 centuries as far north as Iceland. The slave trade didn't only become wrong when whites became the perpetrators. It's wrong on point.

There is hardly any nation that can attest to being innocent re historic atrocities; yet today the Marxists and Democrats have somehow concluded that skin colour is now a paramount determinant of "evilness" and "privilege"

 

[biometrics]

Racial stereotyping ...or do you pass your culture by insemination?
Hitler similarly stereotyped Jews to justify the socialist "justifiable" genocide (as described by Engels); same happened for example with the Rwandan genocide, China's attacks on Tibetans, Yughurs, ...

The fact that Hitler made some generalizations that could be reasoned to be appropriate does not make the act of stereotyping any race justifiable. If your measure of what stereotyping is acceptable is tied at all to race or skin colour then you're condoning racism; I.e. a tacit admonishment of a race.

There are many on the left who selectively pick through history to drive the narrative that white is somehow evil, and hence deserves to be singled out...

...but that's a completely ill informed view of history and isn't unsupported by fact. For example: Africans were and still are the world's largest market of slave trafficking; history reveals that whites were also victims of the African slave trade -- Africa's Barbary Coast pirates enslaved over 1.3m white Europeans over 3 centuries as far north as Iceland. The slave trade didn't only become wrong when whites became the perpetrators. It's wrong on point.

There is hardly any nation that can attest to being innocent re historic atrocities; yet today the Marxists and Democrats have somehow concluded that skin colour is now a paramount determinant of "evilness" and "privilege"

This side discussion should probably move to it's own thread. Shall I call it “Racial stereotyping”?

 

[[)roi(]]

This side discussion should probably move to it's own thread. Shall I call it “Racial stereotyping”?

No need -- I've said all I will on this subject. i.e. any tolerance of racism is abhorrent.

 

[jasong]

No need -- I've said all I will on this subject. i.e. any tolerance of racism is abhorrent.

Also..

There is no such thing as hate speech; only speech you don't like.

Also...

Is that somehow tied to the acceptance of e.g. tranny story hour?

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The same people who attack "white power" are also those who see nothing wrong with "black power", black only dorms, black only women's retreats, black only graduations, etc. when simply said if their gauge about what's acceptable or not is based solely on skin colour; then they are the real Racists.

Also...

Is this MyBB version 2.0?
Either free speech is protected or its not.

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...proving that black lives only matter when a white person is involved, and when the democrats need a riot.

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[[)roi(]]

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...and your point is.

 

[jasong]

...and your point is.

My point is that you're extremely selective about what constitutes intolerable racism

 

[[)roi(]]

My point is that you're extremely selective about what constitutes intolerable racism

Rubbish. What exactly in what you quoted is racist.

 

[jasong]

Rubbish. What exactly in what you quoted is racist.

No possible contradictions here then? Ok.

any tolerance of racism is abhorrent.

There is no such thing as hate speech

 

[[)roi(]]

No possible contradictions here then? Ok.

Whew... you really pushing the limits aren't you.

So who in your books get to define "hate speech" -- those on the left or those on the right.
Sorry... it's always whoever is in power.

So you'd be ok if e.g. Marxism, Socialism, Communism, ... or if everything about the opposition was defined as hate speech?

“The concept of “microaggression” is just one of many tactics used to stifle differences of opinion by declaring some opinions to be “hate speech,” instead of debating those differences in a marketplace of ideas. To accuse people of aggression for not marching in lockstep with political correctness is to set the stage for justifying real aggression against them.”
― Thomas Sowell

“Man must be able to think freely and he must be able to express his thoughts freely! He who is against this is not only fascist and primitive but at the same time is a very great coward also! Only the brave and the honourable men are never afraid of freedom of thought and freedom of expression of ideas! Just like the cockroaches do not like the light, evil minds also do not like the freedom of thoughts!”
-- Mehmet Murat ildan

“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”
― Noam Chomsky

In The Friends of Voltaire, Hall wrote the phrase: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
-- Evelyn Beatrice Hall

"One certain effect of war is to diminish freedom of expression.”
— Howard Zinn

 

[jasong]

Whew... you really pushing the limits aren't you.

Is racism hate speech?

 

[[)roi(]]

Is racism hate speech?

There is no hate speech. If those in power ever get to define hate speech; then you'll end up with:

• When I'm in power I'll define everything you say as hate speech.
• When you are in power; you'll define everything I say as hate speech.

What option is then left... WAR.

Hence...

In The Friends of Voltaire, Hall wrote the phrase: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
-- Evelyn Beatrice Hall

 

[jasong]

There is no hate speech. If those in power ever get to define hate speech; then you'll end up with:

• When I'm in power I'll define everything you say as hate speech.
• When you are in power; you'll define everything I say as hate speech.

What's option is then left... WAR.

If racist language isn't hate speech then what is it and what makes it intolerable?