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If you have ever met people who run such institutions - you would know that they follow medical advice.

And so you are saying that everyone employed by the government, in that state, are democrats? Even just the normal workers?

Nope... what I said and implied is that the Democrats run this city and state; hence they are responsible for this abuse.

 

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Of course. You don't go around claiming Fake News at all.

There is fake news (both sides)... to not admit that would be naive; and I try to avoid that.

And I vote for the Democratic Alliance. You do know they have nothing at all to do with those Democrats I assume. though not sure who I will vote for in the next election - I was really disappointed by them in the last one.

That I find surprising to be honest; because ideologically DA has more in common with Republicans re classical liberalism -- than they they do with Democrats. Democrats are ideologically no different to EFF and ANC.

No worries re "...nothing at all to do with..." -- politics is a favourite side interest of mine.

 

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There is fake news (both sides)... to not admit that would be naive; and I try to avoid that.


That I find surprising to be honest; because ideologically DA has more in common with Republicans re classical liberalism -- than they they do with Democrats. Democrats are ideologically no different to EFF and ANC.

No worries re "...nothing at all to do with..." -- politics is a favourite side interest of mine.

I never once said I like the Democrats. You assumed that. I was just reacting to your biased comment. I like neither party. I like neither candidate. I think American politics is a mess and they are going to suffer because of it. Sadly the rest of the world will suffer alongside too.

 

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I never once said I like the Democrats. You assumed that. I was just reacting to your biased comment. I like neither party. I like neither candidate. I think American politics is a mess and they are going to suffer because of it. Sadly the rest of the world will suffer alongside too.

Agreed you got me re assumption; except you did come across as someone defending their abuse.

I think American politics is a mess and they are going to suffer because of it. Sadly the rest of the world will suffer alongside too.

As for mess; Nope I don't agree... if one were to watch CNN and the like you'd think America elected Hitler -- which is a joke in itself because he was a socialist and it's Democrats who are pushing socialism and Hitler style identity politics.

I simply see the current ruckus as the last kick of a dying donkey... who stupidly think the way to get people to vote for them is to swing hard left, undermine the very reason for government i.e. safety and security, and then try to shame, assault and insult everyone into voting for them.

2016 took most by surprise; me too... 2020 for me is going to be a much bigger surprise.

Sadly the rest of the world will suffer alongside too.

Nope; the world is certainly not worse off because of his presidency; the spotlight on the CCP scumbags who run China has for one been a gift to the world, and especially Africa; because the way things were going; we'd soon see ANC / EFF hand over control of SA to the CCP for bundles of money they could never repay. Putting the communist scum on their back foot is showing the world who the CCP always were; the mask is off.

 

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Agreed you got me re assumption; except you did come across as someone defending their abuse.


As for mess; Nope I don't agree... if one were to watch CNN and the like you'd think America elected Hitler -- which is a joke in itself because he was a socialist and it's Democrats who are pushing socialism and Hitler style identity politics.

I simply see the current ruckus as the last kick of a dying donkey... who stupidly think the way to get people to vote for them is to swing hard left, undermine the very reason for government i.e. safety and security, and then try to shame, assault and insult everyone into voting for them.

2016 took most by surprise; me too... 2020 for me is going to be a much bigger surprise.


Nope; the world is certainly not worse off because of his presidency; the spotlight on the CCP scumbags who run China has for one been a gift to the world, and especially Africa; because the way things were going; we'd soon see ANC / EFF hand over control of SA to the CCP for bundles of money they could never repay. Putting the communist scum on their back foot is showing the world who the CCP always were; the mask is off.

Look I disagree with you when it comes to Trump. I think he is his own worst enemy. But I have these discussions with my son and know that I will never be able to make you see him the way I do. I only hope that they don't lose too many more people - either through the virus or violence.

My hubby supports the Dems and the two of them do not get on at the moment. While I cannot understand his viewpoint - my son is entitled to support whomever he wants - for whatever reasons. I have tried to understand what you guys see in him - but every time he opens his mouth I cringe. So I decided that I am not too invested in this at all. And he doesn't make me think of Hitler at all - I do think he is egotistical and delusional. He puts the focus on himself in all matters.

I am more concerned about what is going to happen here as I am don't think we have many good choices at the moment.

 

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Look I disagree with you when it comes to Trump. I think he is his own worst enemy. But I have these discussions with my son and know that I will never be able to make you see him the way I do. I only hope that they don't lose too many more people - either through the virus or violence.

My hubby supports the Dems and the two of them do not get on at the moment. While I cannot understand his viewpoint - my son is entitled to support whomever he wants - for whatever reasons. I have tried to understand what you guys see in him - but every time he opens his mouth I cringe. So I decided that I am not too invested in this at all. And he doesn't make me think of Hitler at all - I do think he is egotistical and delusional. He puts the focus on himself in all matters.

I am more concerned about what is going to happen here as I am don't think we have many good choices at the moment.

Ask any Republican whether they think Trump is a perfect individual, and the general answer you'll get is no. I'm not perfect and nobody is, but it is only the Democrats that act as if they are, including claiming that they are the moral authority on everything -- when their policies are more aligned with Nazis than they are with classical liberalism.

Trump was elected because all the other sweet talking politicians like Obama were absolutely crap and did the opposite of what they committed to do. The divisions in America are not because of Trump; they're there because of Obama / Biden's tenure. People chose to give a business man a chance, because "what did they have to lose".

The reality if you're able to look past the biased CNN and others is that he unlike the sweet talkers is delivering what he promised -- has he delivered it all -- No, could he do better -- Yes, etc.

Many successful patrons in New York sound and talk like Trump; whilst that may not be everyone's cup of tea -- it's hard to argue with results. Plus how ridiculous have things become that Democrats today take the opposite position of everything Trump is for. Democrats used to believe in strong borders, strong policing, etc. Today they just come across as completely unhinged, and even worse pushing socialism and ignoring the civil discord created by hard left scum like ANTIFA and BLM.