Do you believe everyone will get Covid-19 eventually?

Do you believe everyone will get Covid-19 eventually?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 56.7%
  • No

    Votes: 7 23.3%
  • Don't know, maybe

    Votes: 6 20.0%

  • Total voters
    30
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They should have mandated masks, social distancing and hand washing from the start and let things go on as normal. But that's hindsight, right. What if we had 10x the deaths like Brazil? Seems there is something to the theory that countries that had certain childhood vaccines have low death rates. (Edit: BCG vaccine)
No hindsight will be when this is over, and the conclusion IMO will be that lockdowns were BS, so too masks, etc.
The only thing that should have been done earlier was to protect the most vulnerable. For example: had that been done in Sweden and New York then the mortality would have been no worst than H1N1.
 

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No hindsight will be when this is over, and the conclusion IMO will be that lockdowns were BS, so too masks, etc.
The only thing that should have been done earlier was to protect the most vulnerable. For example: had that been done in Sweden and New York then the mortality would have been no worst than H1N1.
Like I saw someone say - we'll never know if we overreacted to this. However, we certainly would know very well if we underreacted.
 

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We also in the dark re long term affects. Who's to say anyone who's caught COVID is now sterile? Or that those who can conceive will give birth to 3 eyed babies?
 

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They should have mandated masks, social distancing and hand washing from the start and let things go on as normal. But that's hindsight, right. What if we had 10x the deaths like Brazil? Seems there is something to the theory that countries that had certain childhood vaccines have low death rates. (Edit: BCG vaccine)
Brazil's deaths per million pop is lower than many other countries out there (such as US and UK).
 
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Like I saw someone say - we'll never know if we overreacted to this. However, we certainly would know very well if we underreacted.
Nope.... for example:
  • Sweden will prove the case
  • In the US there were significantly different approach between red / blue states; that too will prove the case.
  • etc..
 

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Tell that to everyone who lost their job; and every business that went belly up, etc.
This was an overreaction of moronic proportions.
Yeah lock downs are harsh man, especially on 3rd world countries like ours, where the economy was tanking before the pandemic.

It's a tough one hey.

China was the first to go into lock down right? And it was a quite extreme one! Then Italy started getting hammered and the world panicked. It looked for a time that France and Spain would see high fatalities. Also remember how Boris in the UK was being hammered daily for the lack of decisive action re lock down? They seen some extreme numbers there too.
 
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Yeah lock downs are harsh man, especially on 3rd world countries like ours, where the economy was tanking before the pandemic.

It's a tough one hey.

China was the first to go into lock down right? And it was a quite extreme one! Then Italy started getting hammered and the world panicked. It looked for a time that France and Spain would see high fatalities. Also remember how Boris in the UK was being hammered daily for the lack of decisive action re lock down? They seen some extreme numbers there too.
That was the problem; it started in a communist country who first tried to cover it up for suspicious reasons, then colluded with WHO all the while refusing access to the world's epidemiologists. Judging solely on China's atrocious and heavy handed response to this -- panic inevitably ensued, even though after opposition parties the world over first tried to downplay the threat... but when Italy went into hands up panic mode , following along with their cohort China's model of despotic lunacy, the world finally relented and followed suit down the road of irrationality, kicking liberty out the door.

Naturally opposition parties saw this as a political truncheon; the fact that it was political season meant it was only more advantageous, hence truncheon approaches like lockdowns, masks and other BS became the order of the day. The only country to not fall for this crap was Sweden; the UK tried but like the US, the political attacks meant hedging bets, even though every other pandemic / epidemic proved it was a senseless approach.

For example:
Obama terminated the testing in the middle and at the height of the H1N1 pandemic because it wasn't useful and only would create panic; Fauci was one of the guys to suggest this. Yet here we are today, Fauci taking the flip side argument, a world tracking the untrackable, locking down the healthy and willfully destroying the world's economy because it's politically advantageous to do so.

...and the electorate goes along because the daily death toll, infections, ... computer models and statistics make this seem all to real and so "severe". FFS a whole world wearing masks; frightened by coughs -- just because some immoral scumbags decided their political ambitions were a greater priority and the world be damned.

The only good things I see from this is that rational people will never believe forecasters; -- to simply say they were wrong is massively understating the problem. so much for just blindly trusting some computer model and the science. Second is that the world is filled will scumbag scientists, doctors and companies who put their politics, economic interests ahead of the truth, turning what should have been just another H1N1 type pandemic into a global warming style political fiasco.

The real victims in all of this will be those who were already struggling before this; but for scumbag politicians even that's advantageous, because now they have more victims and something to blame whilst they sweep their perpetual ineptitude under the rug...

... as they say a nation deserves the government they elect (even the scumbags) and South Africa has won many of the gold medals in the politically feckless olympics.
 
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I'm not entirely sure how governments benefit from the pandemic and the ensuing lock down...? Must be dense...

In fact, how governments respond could make or break them...
 

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I'm not entirely sure how governments benefit from the pandemic and the ensuing lock down...? Must be dense...

In fact, how governments respond could make or break them...
Didn't SA gov get a grant from the World Bank very recently for this?

Also, there was something about US states getting relief for Corona deaths?
 
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I'm not entirely sure how governments benefit from the pandemic and the ensuing lock down...? Must be dense...

In fact, how governments respond could make or break them...
Political parties benefit; i.e. political truncheon. In SA; it helps the already corrupt, ...
Politicians aren't all morons; they know how to turn a "crisis" into personal gain.
 
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Didn't SA gov get a grant from the World Bank very recently for this?

Also, there was something about US states getting relief for Corona deaths?
Exactly; and the current US stimulus is held up because Democrats want a few trillions to bail out their states; the result of feckless governance -- completely unrelated to covid-19 of course.
 

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Didn't SA gov get a grant from the World Bank very recently for this?

Also, there was something about US states getting relief for Corona deaths?
A loan, repayable with interest and required to cushion the financial fall out. How does it benefit government? Assuming of course they not helping themselves to it, in the form of an early Xmas bonus?

Negative GDP growth, massive unemployment, loss of revenue from VAT, excise duties, import duties and Pay As You Earn tax, sorry, still don't see how government/politicians are benefiting from the pandemic/lock downs. Economies are hemorrhaging.

Boris, Cyril, Trump, Bolsonaro are all fighting for political survival as I'm sure are many others.

Political parties benefit; i.e. political truncheon. In SA; it helps the already corrupt, ...
Politicians aren't all morons; they know how to turn a "crisis" into personal gain.

ANC is quite possibly the worst government in the world.
 
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Assuming of course they not helping themselves to it, in the form of an early Xmas bonus?
Where else would the money go...
Imagine having a job that guaranteed you a salary and bonuses irrespective of how much you suck at it, how much you stole, or how much your decisions destroyed the economy, businesses and jobs.

ANC is quite possibly the worst government in the world.
Whilst I think they're bad (really bad) -- I think they've still got a long way to go to be as corrupt as Russia, Venezuela, or as evil as China.
 
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