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Do you believe everyone will get Covid-19 eventually?
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Hahaha Life is funny like that.
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Age seems to be the major factor with comorbidities a close second.
50% of people seem to recover quite well. The other half not so much. Even when recovered there's a long tail of weird symptoms incl loss of memory, loss of balance, loss of smell and taste, that can last for many months. Best to not get this thing!
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Ok it's a bit of an oxymoron really.
Look at when we had the Ebola outbreak - it was contained very quickly. We've had a lot of outbreaks and I thank my lucky stars that we were spared the horrible deaths.
So if everyone learnt hygiene and health care, then we'd be ok with future outbreaks of whatever comes our way. Apparently there is bubonic plague in Mongolia. Seriously this shit needs to stop. People need to be educated.
Look at when we had the Ebola outbreak - it was contained very quickly. We've had a lot of outbreaks and I thank my lucky stars that we were spared the horrible deaths.
So if everyone learnt hygiene and health care, then we'd be ok with future outbreaks of whatever comes our way. Apparently there is bubonic plague in Mongolia. Seriously this shit needs to stop. People need to be educated.
Some can't afford the risk of getting it, because it could be pretty much guaranteed to be fatal. So no, not all will get it this time around.
There is just too little known about this virus so far to make any claims at all about "herd immunity" or developing lasting antibodies or developing some sort of general immunity that would ensure some sort of protection.
The only hope for the infirm and at-risk population is a vaccine or a treatment regime that works.
Note, long term, ventilation of any form is NOT a treatment in this sense.
There is just too little known about this virus so far to make any claims at all about "herd immunity" or developing lasting antibodies or developing some sort of general immunity that would ensure some sort of protection.
The only hope for the infirm and at-risk population is a vaccine or a treatment regime that works.
Note, long term, ventilation of any form is NOT a treatment in this sense.
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No. We at 12m globally confirmed cases. So what’s that? 0.15% of the global population? So even if the actual number is 20x that, still only 3% of the global population. And if the actual number is 20 x that, that makes the IFR pale into insignificance.
The virus will burn itself out long before we reach anything vaguely representative of a global herd immunity.
6 people I know with COVID, all seem to have recovered, 1 was hospitalized, a frail 85 year old female in an old age home, another 70 year old, also in an old age home, was basically asymptotic throughout. A lady in her 50’s with a history of breast cancer and other ailments, her 57 year old husband and 30 odd year old son. 3 weeks in and all pretty much over it.
Do I want to get it? Fuck no!! Is it a death sentence if you do get it? Uhm, no....
The virus will burn itself out long before we reach anything vaguely representative of a global herd immunity.
6 people I know with COVID, all seem to have recovered, 1 was hospitalized, a frail 85 year old female in an old age home, another 70 year old, also in an old age home, was basically asymptotic throughout. A lady in her 50’s with a history of breast cancer and other ailments, her 57 year old husband and 30 odd year old son. 3 weeks in and all pretty much over it.
Do I want to get it? Fuck no!! Is it a death sentence if you do get it? Uhm, no....
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One of our members lost his mother to C19 this week.
That was quick
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So how we doing with our herd immunity strategy?
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it will be no different to every other flu epidemic / pandemic.
Y2K
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Everybody will get infected at some point, infinite timeless with infinite possibilities.
Yes, fortunately nobody since. Weird how experts don't know yet what causes healthy people to succumb to the virus.
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I'll just leave this here
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With an outcomes based death rate of 7.3%
Coronavirus Update (Live): 133,034,420 Cases and 2,886,246 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...www.worldometers.info
and a world population of 7.8 billion people
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that means 569 million people will die.
This death rate is pure nonsense.
Antibody loads in populations have already been increasing, hence the falling of infection rates. The lock down was supposed to only flatten the curve, which it did. Time to get back to work.
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It doesn't kill enough people globally to be a major concern. Once the vaccines become available the disease will be insignificant.
To have only 780k people dead over a 10/11 month period worldwide is a joke.
This whole thing is a joke in comparison to the destruction the massive lock down levels had.
IMHO, the national lockdown caused more harm than this blown-out-of-proportion-disease.
To have only 780k people dead over a 10/11 month period worldwide is a joke.
This whole thing is a joke in comparison to the destruction the massive lock down levels had.
IMHO, the national lockdown caused more harm than this blown-out-of-proportion-disease.
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They should have mandated masks, social distancing and hand washing from the start and let things go on as normal. But that's hindsight, right. What if we had 10x the deaths like Brazil? Seems there is something to the theory that countries that had certain childhood vaccines have low death rates. (Edit: BCG vaccine)
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Which is why I expected carnage here.
How many deaths would there have been worldwide without any lockdown? 7m? 3m? 10m? 1m? Nobody knows.
It cannot be predicted as we've had the lockdown now. This cannot be reversed. Sure we can try a non-lockdown with the next virus (but will it be identical? Probably not.). Many new ones are predicted...so bring it on.