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First the pit lane closed debacle and now this, makes one wonder.
 

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Also true, but they were given a "do not cross line"
And Mercedes told Lewis it was okay to cross

Actually it said "Event Notes item 19.1., which is defined as the place ”on the right hand side” after the pit exit lights (and is not part of the track as defined by lines) which has been known to all competitors and used without exception.’"

Look in front of Hamilton, he's on the right hand side, after the pit exit light and not part of the track as defined by lines.

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Really bad wording by the stewards (or whoever set the event notes guide for Sochi).
 

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Actually it said "Event Notes item 19.1., which is defined as the place ”on the right hand side” after the pit exit lights (and is not part of the track as defined by lines) which has been known to all competitors and used without exception.’"

Look in front of Hamilton, he's on the right hand side, after the pit exit light and not part of the track as defined by lines.

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Really bad wording by the stewards (or whoever set the event notes guide for Sochi).
I agree, the wording might have been a bit confusing, but it was up to Mercedes to control it, My point is Lewis should not have attacked the stewards as much as he has, his team should have asked for more clarity. But it is over now, it has been overturned.
Lewis is still a doos none the less
 

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It seems Mika Salo isn't coming out of this debacle looking good either, apparently he was messaging his contact at Finnish TV 20 minutes before the decision was announced saying they were giving Hamilton 2x5 sec penalties and he was going to be banned for Germany because they also wanted to give him 2 x 2 points.

Mika Salo keeps leaking stewarding decisions to the Finnish broadcaster CMore, most probably straight to the commentator Niki Juusela who Salo has been working with as a commentator himself on many occasions. Today in Sochi, Salo was the driver steward, and right as the cars got on the warm up lap, Juusela started talking about "breaking news" how Hamilton was going to get 2 x 5 second penalties, and that it would be announced "shortly". Officially these penalties were not announced until over 20 minutes later on lap 7. Juusela was also saying that Hamilton had been given 2+2 penalty points, and was pretty much confirming that he would be getting a race ban for Germany. Seemingly these were reduced to 1+1 later, which means that Salo is texting him in the middle of an ongoing negotiation, not even giving confirmed information.

This is not the first time this has happened, as most of the times when Salo is a driver steward, CMore seems to be very well informed on potential penalties well ahead of them being announced. Today was the most egregious example of this happening however, as Juusela almost couldn't contain his excitement upon getting this secret text message (I assume it's text messages). If I remember correctly, he even mentioned that he is getting information "direct from Sochi".
 

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Looking at the exact wording in the race notes and it's even worse. I think Wolff and Merc have a valid point.

The section of race director Michael Masi’s event notes relating to practice starts states: “Practice starts may only be carried out on the right-hand side after the pit exit lights and, for the avoidance of doubt, this includes any time the pit exit is open for the race.

“Drivers must leave adequate room on their left for another driver to pass.

“For reasons of safety and sporting equity, cars may not stop in the fast lane at any time the pit exit is open without a justifiable reason.”

 

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This dude has been in the limelight for 2 seconds and already throwing a hissy fit over his detractors? Hahaha, he's going to have a nervous breakdown before the end of the season.
Common misconception. Finnish people have no emotions.
 
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