Poor should be allowed to steal from stores?

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So you want armed shoplifters?

Understood.
Whew... are you confirming that you're a moron... here's the case in point that seems to confirm that.
" law abiding citizens" does not rationally equate to "shoplifters"

...however if you are asking if I'm supporter of the US second amendment, then yes I firmly believe the right to protect oneself, one's family, and one's property is a right that no government should ever impede upon. Does that mean I believe people should be shot for trespassing, or shot for shoplifting, or another misdemeanour -- no of course not, only a moron would jump to that conclusion -- this is not the wild west.

In a law abiding society, the primary role of government is safety and security (of citizens and their property) -- i.e. to arrest the perpetrators and prosecute them within the extent of the law. If government doesn't fulfil its role then government should be held accountable, but the morons on the left that undermine that, with their bleeding hearts stupidity -- you can't fix a problem by not addressing it, or worse rewarding it, for example:
  • California handing out syringes to heroin addicts doesn't resolve the problem, it exacerbates it, more so it make it inherently unsafe for the law abiding citizens; who could step on syringe needle and end with all sorts of disease, or worse.
 

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  • California handing out syringes to heroine addicts doesn't resolve the problem, it exacerbates it, more so it make it inherently unsafe for the law abiding citizens; who could step on syringe needle and end with all sorts of disease.
bwahahaha


heroine
/ˈhɛrəʊɪn/

noun
a woman admired for her courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.

Watch out who you call a moron.
 

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bwahahaha


heroine
/ˈhɛrəʊɪn/

noun
a woman admired for her courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.

Watch out who you call a moron.
I mean, fair play to California if the heroines want a botox injection, then they can remain at the height of their beauty without having to share needles.
 
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bwahahaha


heroine
/ˈhɛrəʊɪn/

noun
a woman admired for her courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.

Watch out who you call a moron.
Oh how petty; I guess you've never heard of autocorrect. Nevertheless it's corrected; thanks for pointing it out.
Now dear moron; how about you try to be rational for once and respond to the topic at hand.
 

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Anybody who promotes Marxism, Socialism, Communism and Fascism, or tries to argue that prefixing failed ideologies with terms like Democratic or Anarcho make any difference are morons.

So yes, if they fall into that group, then not only are they ignorant of history, but they incapable of reasoned thought / debate, devoid of logic and lack any notion of rationality, among others.
I missed this deeply ironic post.

Sorry to quote it so late, but it does amuse me. Apparently "they" also lack basic grammar: the phrase is "they are also incapable".

You are welcome, keep posting and follow me for new grammar tips and hints to help you out.
 
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[)roi(] said:
  • California handing out syringes to heroine addicts doesn't resolve the problem, it exacerbates it, more so it make it inherently unsafe for the law abiding citizens; who could step on syringe needle and end with all sorts of disease.

So according to your logic all employers who pay their staff a salary should stop doing that if those employees use the money to buy drugs.
 

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Oh how petty; I guess you've never heard of autocorrect. Nevertheless it's corrected; thanks for pointing it out.
Now dear moron; how about you try to be rational for once and respond to the topic at hand.
Could you stop with the name calling? It is very childish.
 

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[)roi(] said:
  • California handing out syringes to heroine addicts doesn't resolve the problem, it exacerbates it, more so it make it inherently unsafe for the law abiding citizens; who could step on syringe needle and end with all sorts of disease.

So according to your logic all employers who pay their staff a salary should stop doing that if those employees use the money to buy drugs.
|)roid(| appears to be one of those charming right-wingers who would welcome a return to slavery - no wages = no money for drugs.
 
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Could you stop with the name calling? It is very childish.
You're only a moron IMO; if you support the policies of the left; and in particular to this thread, you support the notion that, for example:
  • misdemeanours like shoplifting should never be prosecuted
  • bail is somehow a bad thing (for some bleeding heart reason), and hence avoided:
    • i.e. to allow criminals to go from stealing something, or assaulting someone, to right back on the street to do it again within 24 hours or less.
Ps. maybe before calling something childish; you should take a moment for a bit of self reflection with Dave... shit posting emojis... is hardly setting a firm foundation for you to level criticism from, nor is calling someone a troll just because you don't like the facts.

I'd happily debate the economic rationality of e.g. socialism vs. capitalism... but so far, the left in this forum are far more inclined to shit post, or something similar; hence I can only surmise they're incapable as most leftists are -- it's why IMO they believe that garbage.
 

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You're only a moron IMO; if you support the policies of the left;
That sounds objective.

and in particular to this thread, you support the notion that, for example:
  • misdemeanours like shoplifting should never be prosecuted
No one has suggested this.

  • bail is somehow a bad thing (for some bleeding heart reason), and hence avoided:

Bail, is, when, yanno.... when the legal system allows the accused to be
  • right back on the street to do it again within 24 hours or less.
I can't decide, from your poor wording, if you support or oppose bail.

Ps. maybe before calling something childish; you should take a moment for a bit of self reflection with Dave... shit posting emojis... is hardly setting a firm foundation for you to level criticism from, nor is calling someone a troll just because you don't like the facts.
* "from which, for you, to level criticism". You are welcome.

We call you a troll because you do not provide fact, you just throw around a few insults and run away.
I'd happily debate the economic rationality of e.g. socialism vs. capitalism... but so far, the left in this forum are far more inclined to shit post, or something similar; hence I can only surmise they're incapable as most leftists are -- it's why IMO they believe that garbage.
This is a perfect example of irony; I fear, however, you are not sufficiently self aware to realise.
 
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You're only a moron IMO; if you support the policies of the left; and in particular to this thread, you support the notion that, for example:
  • misdemeanours like shoplifting should never be prosecuted
  • bail is somehow a bad thing (for some bleeding heart reason), and hence avoided:
    • i.e. to allow criminals to go from stealing something, or assaulting someone, to right back on the street to do it again within 24 hours or less.
Ps. maybe before calling something childish; you should take a moment for a bit of self reflection with Dave... shit posting emojis... is hardly setting a firm foundation for you to level criticism from, nor is calling someone a troll just because you don't like the facts.

I'd happily debate the economic rationality of e.g. socialism vs. capitalism... but so far, the left in this forum are far more inclined to shit post, or something similar; hence I can only surmise they're incapable as most leftists are -- it's why IMO they believe that garbage.

Jesus, you're here whining about the 'left' and yet are using the worlds most capitalist country as an argument against socialism????

Dude, they are talking about not prosecuting 'small and victimless crimes' because there are so fucking many of them in the US of A that they don't have the resources to deal with them all. That is the result of capitalism.
 

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Jesus, you're here whining about the 'left' and yet are using the worlds most capitalist country as an argument against socialism????

Dude, they are talking about not prosecuting 'small and victimless crimes' because there are so fucking many of them in the US of A that they don't have the resources to deal with them all. That is the result of capitalism.
The "Broken windows" theory will prove the consequences of not prosecuting minor offences. ;)
 
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He always threatens to have a debate, but we are yet to see it happen.
Well... a debate is not a singular endeavour. So far you've only proven your ability to stand on the sidelines and sneer... if you think that garbage has merits then how about you rationally try to defend it.
 
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Jesus, you're here whining about the 'left' and yet are using the worlds most capitalist country as an argument against socialism????

Dude, they are talking about not prosecuting 'small and victimless crimes' because there are so fucking many of them in the US of A that they don't have the resources to deal with them all. That is the result of capitalism.
Oh boy, where to start...
  • first off America is a federal republic of states; and if you appreciated that, you would not simply dismiss it as the "the worlds most capitalist country"
  • secondly its a bit naive to try to assume that capitalism is somehow oil to socialism's water -- if that were the case, then pray tell what do you call China then? How did they maintain their totalitarian socialist / communist system of governance whilst avoiding a repeat of the economic depravity of Mao Zedong? ... their economy in contrast has thrived.

America can be thought of as a federal republic of independent countries (they call states); each with their own independent system of governance, laws, elections, etc. -- states that who agreed to unite as a federal republic of states, sharing a common federal system of governance, federal laws, elections, etc. Practically that means that each state, and in turn each city and county has a far greater degree of autonomy than e.g. provinces and cities have in South Africa

That autonomy depending on who is elected can enact very socialist style policies and laws, whilst another can embrace a very strict classical liberalist approach, etc.

As for your conclusion that the crime is a consequence of capitalism -- that's just silly, and clearly demonstrates your ignorance of both capitalism and the direct consequences of legislative / governance policy decisions, etc.
The term victimless crime is a ridiculous misnomer; crime always has a victim...
 
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