scudsucker
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Let us consider the things you have posted in this thread. There are broadly five areas.
1) Intelligent Design is responsible for octopus evolution.
Claim made here:
You have provided no form of evidence for this.
2) Dawkins' comments on Intelligent Design.
Claim made here:
Evidence provided: an edited clip of an interview from a Youtube channel called "ScienceVsEvolution", no further details nor the name of the interviewer.
Dawkins did hypothesize (in your heavily edited clip) that aliens could have been responsible for the beginning of life on earth, immediately after he stated that no one actually knows how the first molecule replicated. This is in no way an 'admission' of anything, it is not the 'gotcha' you want it to be.
He also stated that, in the case of these hypothetical aliens, that they themselves would have evolved via some form of Darwinian evolution. You can see Dawkins making his primary point at 00:30 to 00:35 where he says "I've told you, we don't know.. No no .. not, nor has anybody else".
There is simply no way to tell how life started. This claim may be dismissed as a disingenuous attempt to validate Intelligent Design.
3) Atheism is a religion / Evolution is a religion
Claim made here:
Evidence provided: opinion of Dr. M. Ruse stating that "Evolution is a religion", an unattributed quote claiming Darwin "admitted" that his thoughts became a religion, further opinion of Dr. M. Ruse stating that "evolution, akin to religion, involves making certain a priori or metaphysical assumptions".
Notwithstanding the bizarre conflation of evolution and atheism, this claim may be dismissed as the supposed evidence makes no attempt to prove the premise. It relies solely on the opinion of one person and anonymous hearsay.
4) Atheism is the same as Evolution
Claim made here:
You have provided no form of evidence for this.
5) Statues are erected of Darwin, and people follow the figureheads with a level of fundamentalism seen mainly in religions.
Claim made here:
You have provided no form of evidence for this.
While I would have opened up the KJV version of the new testament to choose something juicy for you to read on the subject of misinformation and lies; I decided instead to refer you to the following message:
1) Intelligent Design is responsible for octopus evolution.
Claim made here:
Yes it's called Intelligent Design. They were designed that way.
You have provided no form of evidence for this.
2) Dawkins' comments on Intelligent Design.
Claim made here:
Heck even Dawkins said we could have been created by aliens so I guess he's talking complete nonsense too......
...(Dawkins) says that it is possible that intelligent design (aliens) could be responsible for the creation of life on earth.
..the die hard Dawkins admit that DNA and the origins of life could have been created by an intelligent creator.
Evidence provided: an edited clip of an interview from a Youtube channel called "ScienceVsEvolution", no further details nor the name of the interviewer.
Dawkins did hypothesize (in your heavily edited clip) that aliens could have been responsible for the beginning of life on earth, immediately after he stated that no one actually knows how the first molecule replicated. This is in no way an 'admission' of anything, it is not the 'gotcha' you want it to be.
He also stated that, in the case of these hypothetical aliens, that they themselves would have evolved via some form of Darwinian evolution. You can see Dawkins making his primary point at 00:30 to 00:35 where he says "I've told you, we don't know.. No no .. not, nor has anybody else".
There is simply no way to tell how life started. This claim may be dismissed as a disingenuous attempt to validate Intelligent Design.
3) Atheism is a religion / Evolution is a religion
Claim made here:
Yeah I agree, the religion of atheism is about as strong as that of any other religion
evolution is like a religion for some atheists. There was one of the famous evolutionists who was actually brave enough to admit that it was like a religion him and others like him.
... and evolution's very founder himself admits to evolution being a religion for some.
Evidence provided: opinion of Dr. M. Ruse stating that "Evolution is a religion", an unattributed quote claiming Darwin "admitted" that his thoughts became a religion, further opinion of Dr. M. Ruse stating that "evolution, akin to religion, involves making certain a priori or metaphysical assumptions".
Notwithstanding the bizarre conflation of evolution and atheism, this claim may be dismissed as the supposed evidence makes no attempt to prove the premise. It relies solely on the opinion of one person and anonymous hearsay.
4) Atheism is the same as Evolution
Claim made here:
One and the same.
Atheism and evolution are like peanut butter and jam, they go hand in hand for some atheists
You have provided no form of evidence for this.
5) Statues are erected of Darwin, and people follow the figureheads with a level of fundamentalism seen mainly in religions.
Claim made here:
Statues are erected of Darwin, and people follow the figureheads with a level of fundamentalism seen mainly in religions.
You have provided no form of evidence for this.
While I would have opened up the KJV version of the new testament to choose something juicy for you to read on the subject of misinformation and lies; I decided instead to refer you to the following message: