Does this forum tolerate racism?

newjourno

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He got well schooled again today in that thread about the 1994 election.

I saw that, and he is also being exposed for contradicting himself within the thread.

His stance seems to be to paint whites as victims in some cases and to paint them as not having any threats in other cases, especially when you bring up Apartheid. It depends on the stance of the person he is responding to.

It's a pity that many if not most on Mybb don't take issue with him or scrutinize his statements yet they are the same people who will say "ANC and EFF voters are unable to think".
 

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I saw that, and he is also being exposed for contradicting himself within the thread.

His stance seems to be to paint whites as victims in some cases and to paint them as not having any threats in other cases, especially when you bring up Apartheid. It depends on the stance of the person he is responding to.

It's a pity that many if not most on Mybb don't take issue with him or scrutinize his statements yet they are the same people who will say "ANC and EFF voters are unable to think".
That is known as a TROLL.
 

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I have to admit that for most of my life I was ignorant of the political situation. I grew up in a small mining town that was conservative. Only when I got to high school did I begin to see what was wrong in our town. I had no idea there were curfews, separate toilets, no sitting in parks etc. My parents were not racist. And it was when my mom started working in what was then called bantu education - that I realised there was a difference in how people were treated. When I used to go to the nursery schools in Khutsong, that I saw how other people lived. Before that I had only been to the mine townships where everyone had nice houses, gardens, schools. I remember being traumatised by it. Horrified that people were forced to live like that. I am still, as much has not changed for many in this country.

So I was very naive. I have lived a privileged life.
 

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So I was very naive. I have lived a privileged life.
I think most of us whites were naive - the government controlled the media, radio and TV was owned and controlled directly, and newspapers and magazines got banned and immediately removed from the shelves for publishing anything that would serve to inform people what was actually going on. Also children are naturally selfish beings, and it’s easy to accept the status quo when you’re in a privileged position.

For the record, I’m not trying to excuse my own ignorance while growing up, rather I’m trying to understand it better. If I think back to some conversations or discussions I had as a teenager, it’s excruciatingly embarrassing to realise how deeply brainwashed and ignorant I was.
 

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I have to admit that for most of my life I was ignorant of the political situation. I grew up in a small mining town that was conservative. Only when I got to high school did I begin to see what was wrong in our town. I had no idea there were curfews, separate toilets, no sitting in parks etc. My parents were not racist. And it was when my mom started working in what was then called bantu education - that I realised there was a difference in how people were treated. When I used to go to the nursery schools in Khutsong, that I saw how other people lived. Before that I had only been to the mine townships where everyone had nice houses, gardens, schools. I remember being traumatised by it. Horrified that people were forced to live like that. I am still, as much has not changed for many in this country.

So I was very naive. I have lived a privileged life.

Though in the 1980’s world of Cosmik

Those townships had everything the whites had. Including play parks for kids. Long since stolen and shacks built on them now.
 

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Though in the 1980’s world of Cosmik

The double standards are also there because the far-right individuals troll any thread that is critical of apartheid but yet throw hissy fits when any critiques are posted regarding the SADF.
 

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Though in the 1980’s world of Cosmik

If you look at the guys profile, he has posted over 3k messages in less than three months (which is more than some members who have been on Mybb have posted in years). The Cosmik profile could be run by a group of apartheid apologists (hence the contradictory messages) or could just be a legitimate person who was psychologically damaged by being in the SADF and old age.

I had a look at the VF+ social media pages a few times and the comments are so vile, it's somewhere you don't want to go again if you are a moderate (easily on par and sometimes worse than the nonsense that gets posted on EFF social media pages).

A lot were abused in those camps but the abuse will not get discussed easily especially as most of them are strong conservatives (and conservatives generally do tell their sons to toughen up rather than open up on mental health).
 
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The Cosmik profile could be run by a group of apartheid apologists (hence the contradictory messages) or could just be a legitimate person who was psychologically damaged by being in the SADF and old age.

Or, more likely, he’s just an old AWB supporter who yearns for the old days and has nothing else to do but make up stories about how good it (and he) was back in the day and blaming the current government for all the perceived sleights and injustices he now has to live with.
 

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Or, more likely, he’s just an old AWB supporter who yearns for the old days and has nothing else to do but make up stories about how good it (and he) was back in the day and blaming the current government for all the perceived sleights and injustices he now has to live with.

He's not the only one, one infamous user who does not even deny accusations of racism but instead responds saying he is a "realist" even mentioned that the VF+ are "too moderate" so I imagine he leans towards the Front Nasionaal and AWB because they are the only thing I can think of further to the right of the VF+.

I suspect even some of the "classical liberals" there are some of the South African folks on Stormfront.
 

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I think most of us whites were naive - the government controlled the media, radio and TV was owned and controlled directly, and newspapers and magazines got banned and immediately removed from the shelves for publishing anything that would serve to inform people what was actually going on. Also children are naturally selfish beings, and it’s easy to accept the status quo when you’re in a privileged position.

For the record, I’m not trying to excuse my own ignorance while growing up, rather I’m trying to understand it better. If I think back to some conversations or discussions I had as a teenager, it’s excruciatingly embarrassing to realise how deeply brainwashed and ignorant I was.
We are human, we are allowed to change...
 

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I have to admit that for most of my life I was ignorant of the political situation. I grew up in a small mining town that was conservative. Only when I got to high school did I begin to see what was wrong in our town. I had no idea there were curfews, separate toilets, no sitting in parks etc. My parents were not racist. And it was when my mom started working in what was then called bantu education - that I realised there was a difference in how people were treated. When I used to go to the nursery schools in Khutsong, that I saw how other people lived. Before that I had only been to the mine townships where everyone had nice houses, gardens, schools. I remember being traumatised by it. Horrified that people were forced to live like that. I am still, as much has not changed for many in this country.

So I was very naive. I have lived a privileged life.
Understandable. Flow of information was heavily controlled. Couple that with restricted movement and any young man/ woman would have been none the wiser.
 
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