Coronavirus around the world thread

Bryn

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Try reading the heading of the graph... what you are comparing is not the same... this graph is cumulative COVID deaths per million i.e. a mortality ratio which is what's actually relevant (it also btw how previous pandemics are rated)
-- hence this is the only rational and non alarmist porn comparison between countries, other pandemics and even seasonal flu.

The graphs you are referencing are just part of the alarmist porn... i.e. it's easy to present data to make it look more severe than it really is.
For example... compare this one to previous ratio graph.
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"OMG o_O look at the upward trajectory... it's a looming crisis."

When in reality the ratio per million is still substantially lower than e.g. Europe and UK. Ratios are important because they allow a rational comparison between countries, and also can be used to predict total mortality and to gauge if the problem is becoming worse or not.
Whereas many of the trajectory graphs are nothing than alarmist porn -- because they statistically add no value, but they sure do create a lot of panic.

Studies published mid last year by CDC disprove the validity of masks and hand sanitisers -- the results from 14 trials done globally.

Also the CDC and FDA has not approved the COVID vaccine --- what? think on that for a moment...
...and then ask why would emergency use authorisation and legal indemnity be required for the drug companies for a vaccine that is so safe?

Polio, Chicken Pox, Small Pox... vaccines are safe -- why? because they've undergone extensive randomised placebo style trials -- hence they are approved by the CDC and FDA, and they did not require emergency use authorisations, nor were drug companies provided with legal indemnity.

You just assume that everyone who refuses to take the COVID vaccine is an anti-vaxxers -- when the reality is you're naive... nope we oppose a rushed and unapproved vaccine that even drug companies required legal indemnity to release.

Why? ... because unlike the rest of the morons we're not willing to be anyone's guinea pig -- and we're most certainly not willing to take any treatment where the drug companies cannot be sued.

As for the rest of your waffle... alarmism porn is like polarising lenses -- those that want to see panic, see panic... where as the rest of sane society wonder how all the supposedly COVID swamped hospital staff the world over found the time to e.g. choreograph multiple dance routines for tiktok.

Reality is that hospitals every year see an influx of patients during the flu season... COVID is at most two to three times as bad as seasonal flu... assuming we can trust the classification of cases globally -- bear in mind there was no global standardisation for this, and even worse some countries decided it would be a good idea to financially incentivise over reporting -- funny how almost everything is classified as COVID when its a revenue stream for hospitals that were prohibited from exercising their normal bread and butter revenue streams.

Also if you believe it's so easy to create a vaccine for a virus (in 6 months)... then pray tell where is the vaccine for HIV?
HIV by any measure is a far worse global pandemic than COVID?
You're repeating a lot of fake news that has been soundly addressed by shows like John Oliver (and the web in general).

Converting charts to deaths per million destroys the usefulness of the info. We do not consider whether or not something is urgent based on the portion of the population affected. If something is clearly a disaster on its own merits, like cities suffering a pandemic wave, genocide of small groups, public shootings etc., then we should feel and respond appropriately. India has over a billion people and not all are suffering equally from Covid. There is only one way to interpret the deaths from Covid in India - "holy s**t".

Another bit of misinformation is that the emergency measures used to get the Covid vaccines out the door (notwithstanding the Chinese and Russian ones, which are not regarded the same way) involved not testing them properly. That is nonsense. This is a discussion by itself, so rather just look it up or watch John Oliver's episodes about Covid vaccines.

Covid has affected the world at different times. Hospitals haven't been universally overwhelmed, as we know all too well in SA with our initial lockdown. But calling Covid 'alarmist porn' is grossly insulting and ignorant when SA's hospitals have experienced misery on a scale you can't comprehend without experiencing it first hand. There is no way to compare flu and Covid, and we know for a fact that at least in PE, Covid death figures are hugely under-reported.

HIV is 'dealt with' to a large degree. Antiretrovirals are nearly bulletproof at this point, and HIV rates have fallen off a cliff in the developed world.
 

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Thailand reported on Monday a daily record of 9,635 new coronavirus cases, nearly three-quarters of which were prisoners infected in jail clusters, as the Southeast Asian country struggles with a third wave of infections.
 

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The Pfizer coronavirus vaccine is 88% effective against the Indian variant after two doses, a study has found.

Both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca jabs were found to be almost as effective against symptomatic disease from the Indian variant as they are against the Kent variant after the second dose.

However, they were only 33% effective three weeks after the first dose, the Public Health England (PHE) report said.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock described the outcome as "groundbreaking", while PHE said it expects to see even higher levels of effectiveness against hospital admissions and deaths.

The study, which took place between 5 April and 16 May, found that the Pfizer vaccine was 88% effective against symptomatic disease from the Indian variant two weeks after the second dose, compared with 93% effectiveness against the Kent variant.

Meanwhile, the AstraZeneca jab was 60% effective, compared with 66% against the Kent variant over the same period.
 
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Funny enough, Big Tech now no longer ban accounts that discuss the lab leak theory
-- as if they ever were the unbiased arbiters of what's true and what's not. So much for free speech...
I'm sure the Chinese Communist party is proud of the coverup assist they got from Big Tech.

Let's not forget the impact of the bullshit peddled by the so called "fact checkers", for example:
 
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Timing of the lift of the moratorium of gainer function research on coronavirus:
January 9th, 2017 the NIAD stated that it had gone through the research of why gainer function research on coronavirus: should be permitted… 11 days before Trump was inaugurated.

So basically the same NIH that had banned gainer function research on coronavirus for 3 years because it was too dangerous, ends up approving that research 11 days before Trump is inaugurated; including granting exemptions; and this was all approved by Dr. Fauci and a secretive committee (whose members are redacted) — but then they also allow some research in Wuhan to not go before this committee, on the principle that it's not gainer function research, and did not have to be under the purview of the committee that was assessing safety.

As for the Wuhan studies not being gainer function, we know that was a lie, and that's admitted in Fauci’s emails obtained by BuzzFeed, but also from the published personal thanks to Fauci from the leading scientist at Wuhan labs: for the financial sponsoring of gainer function research on the coronavirus.
Remind me again what they say about Occam's razor? :rolleyes:
 
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